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“So it's about trying to find a balance within that. And…” — Airing Pain at 11:01

“So it's about trying to find a balance within that. And part of my job is unpicking the efforts that people have made with exercise in the past and trying to work out a level that they're happy to work at. And we often use something that's called a baseline for that. And that might be about somebody working out that…”

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