“My wife looks back in that period and she said, today it…” — Acquired at 6:18
“My wife looks back in that period and she said, today it would be called a social enterprise back then. It was just called a failure. It's good to have your spouse be your best critic. So I was very interested. But then when I finished my PhD in those days, it was really odd for somebody with a PhD to go into…”
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