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“It was a very hard journey because originally I sort of…” — Acquired at 14:58

“It was a very hard journey because originally I sort of went to people and said, OK, business book. Well, the advice was don't do anything very conceptual. It's got to be a lot of stories and stuff. And so my first efforts, I think I wrote a full book this way, were kind of fun stories. And then occasionally I kind…”

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