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“And to be out of work and then trying to find work related…” — Airing Pain at 24:37

“And to be out of work and then trying to find work related to something you originally did, but you can't do that because of your physical pain problem, was quite daunting to then go into another industry to do something else. People often found that very scary to then think I've got to retrain, do something else…”

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