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“But that's not true, because when you talk to people, they…” — Airing Pain at 25:20

“But that's not true, because when you talk to people, they have got person management skills, they've got numeracy literacy skills, they might have computer skills. And these are things that an employer needs to know about when you're looking for a job. So you need to spend some time, perhaps with somebody from the…”

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