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“It's one of the hardest things to do is API design because…” — Software Engineering Daily at 30:02

“It's one of the hardest things to do is API design because you need to think about sort of how is this going to evolve because this is going to stay around for a while. And so measurement is extremely important, but also making measurement visible to everyone. And I often tell the story, and it goes back a long time.…”

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