“There's also engineers that would love to think and do…” — Software Engineering Daily at 33:58
“There's also engineers that would love to think and do some innovation in here. We ship them off to something else. But there's also a group of engineers that really love to look at the minuscule things that make things better. And, you know, if you can find, can build a team out of these people and have them just go…”
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