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“Before that, I was extremely frustrated as a CTO because…” — Software Engineering Daily at 6:18

“Before that, I was extremely frustrated as a CTO because in dealing with vendors, I always felt that the vendor was in charge. I was never in charge. If I wanted to get the cost down, let's say, of this database, I needed to make a five to 10 year contract. I had no idea how much you would need at Amazon five years…”

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