“spectacles of, you know, American troops on the border…” — Sidebar at 3:33
“spectacles of, you know, American troops on the border, military hardware going down there and really wanting to project something definitive that, you know, the border is indeed closed and that no more people are coming in. I don't think we quite saw it to that degree the first time he was in office. James, I went…”
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