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“Babysitter, but to each their own, I guess. So you're…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 33:28

“Babysitter, but to each their own, I guess. So you're talking to Chris. It sounds like you and Chris, are you guys competitors now? I mean, doesn't Chris have Phoenix.new? And isn't this like, there can be only one, Jose. Right. So I, and that's why he's not calling me on the show anymore. No, I'm kidding. So no, we…”

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