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“Not because it's Jose's fault, because I don't think these…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 49:19

“Not because it's Jose's fault, because I don't think these things can do that anymore. It's hilarious, though. I love it. This pursuit of rightness. I'll try. I'll actually try it. Because I've been doing a lot of front end lately. I'm not good at it anymore. I'm learning. All the new tools are fancy and they're hard…”

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