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“What, two marriages? Uh-huh. Well, the marriages aren't…” — True Crime Brewery at 21:46

“What, two marriages? Uh-huh. Well, the marriages aren't the problem. It's the abuse and the kitten killing that really are a problem. Yeah, that's probably not common talk. No, and he was kind of a cutthroat businessman, too. You couldn't trust the guy. Yeah. Yeah. So he met his next wife, Karen Masters, when he was…”

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