“But I think it's important to understand that is a kind of…” — Novara Media at 25:13
“But I think it's important to understand that is a kind of ideal, an ideal of happiness within the way a lot of people have thought about what it is to be like a Trudy's or happy human being. Like going back centuries, thousands of years. I think it's, you know, I think it's interesting. I think that's interesting. I…”
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