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“And those are all important functions of hobbies. Of…” — Novara Media at 27:05

“And those are all important functions of hobbies. Of course, that is partly a gendered thing we can sort of come back to. It's something I think I've been really conscious of since I was a teenager. I mean, there are all kinds of exceptions to this, but tendentially, boys and men, they like to have a project with…”

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