“But at some point, it becomes the thing you are doing with…” — Novara Media at 28:21
“But at some point, it becomes the thing you are doing with your friends, which is very public, which kind of defines you in a lot of people's eyes socially in the wider world. And again, that's also, I wonder if that's something about hobbies as well. Hobbies often, they have their own kind of culture. Like somebody…”
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