“There's another set of people who have the time to do…” — Novara Media at 45:31
“There's another set of people who have the time to do pastimes, which is the retired, of course. I like, you know, there's a really big thing about people take up hobbies when they become retired and when they stop working, basically. But that seems, you know, as you get older, et cetera, that seems, I don't know…”
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