“Where do we want to start with this? Probably a bit of…” — Novara Media at 4:06
“Where do we want to start with this? Probably a bit of definitional work, isn't it? What is a hobby? Yeah, why not? Let's start with a definition. We like to define terms so that we can think, okay, this is what we're probably talking about. So there's one kind of semi-official definition of a hobby, which can be…”
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