“Even like 30 years ago, that wasn't true. That's really…” — Novara Media at 56:05
“Even like 30 years ago, that wasn't true. That's really interesting, actually, yeah. I mean, that does indicate something about why we have this intuitive sense that football doesn't count as a hobby for people unless they're very involved, unless you're involved at the level where... Five aside, surely. Yeah, no…”
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