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“passivity. Because I think with role-playing games, I…” — Novara Media at 57:16

“passivity. Because I think with role-playing games, I mean, notoriously, hardly anybody makes any money out of it. I mean, even people who, there are lots of people involved in that industry who have other jobs because you can't really make a living out of it. But there's a level of creativity involved. Like, that's…”

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