“So those definitions can change. They do depend on kind of…” — Novara Media at 8:43
“So those definitions can change. They do depend on kind of expectations of what's normal and also what's necessary, I think. Yeah. One of the aspects where we can get to is thinking about where the term hobby comes from. It traces back to hobby horse. And a hobby horse was like a wooden sort of horse. But before…”
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