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“I mean, people do discuss tactics and these sorts of…” — Novara Media at 12:53

“I mean, people do discuss tactics and these sorts of things, but you know, it's not like those sort of tinkering hobbies where you get better and better at doing a certain thing. Yeah. It's like whether you get better and better at shouting at the telly when needs are playing really badly. Do you know what I mean?…”

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