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“At first, it's like the sucker punch to the system. You've…” — Acquired at 16:56

“At first, it's like the sucker punch to the system. You've got the wind taken out of you a little bit. And then pretty quickly, we realized that it would be just as risky to do nothing as it would to do something really radical. And if we were going to live into our values, then every once in a while, that really is…”

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