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“fully not pretending they're anything else anymore. Yeah.…” — The Vergecast at 34:19

“fully not pretending they're anything else anymore. Yeah. And I think that's a big culture change as much as anything. But this is all happening next to Google, the other company. Wait, I got to say the Linux thing first. Oh, sure. Oh, my God. Nathan Edwards, our reviews editor, we've been talking about this. And…”

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