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“Okay, so look, they're just grinding, guys. They're out…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 44:02

“Okay, so look, they're just grinding, guys. They're out there hustling, a little sex work, a little side work. I thought that was applied. They could have just stayed in middle management, and they could have probably just lived at the hotel, right? Some people do that. Anyway, so this is one version of the story.…”

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