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“You know, you see him in the car, like, oh, geez, dude.…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 1:09:57

“You know, you see him in the car, like, oh, geez, dude. Like, is it drugs or mental illness? Like, everybody's favorite game show. Welcome to Fresno. Spin the wheel. Find out. Once you're in prison for, like, you know, six months and you haven't had the drugs, the answer is very easy to find out, in my opinion. But…”

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