“There's an artistic challenge. Oh, okay. It doesn't really…” — Serial Chillers Podcast at 6:39
“There's an artistic challenge. Oh, okay. It doesn't really require you being good at being artistic because as Greg always says, he's the judge and you're going to want to pander to your judge. So that's the real way to win. Superior drawings have fallen. Or we used to have clay. Superior sculptures. I did the clay…”
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