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“which people look at the institution now and they think…” — Acquired at 26:56

“which people look at the institution now and they think, oh, wow, it's really chugging along. It's incredible. But when I was there, there was a fear that it would go into bankruptcy. And that was kind of the fear that a lot of media companies were going through before the sort of great reshuffling. I was working at…”

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