“I need to be that person beyond the artist. I need to be…” — Sidebar at 29:19
“I need to be that person beyond the artist. I need to be the man, Daniel Rodriguez. And I barely know him. Well, nice to meet you, Daniel. Just as you're beating yourself. Nice to meet you, too. We started this whole thing, Jerry, because you thought of this former cop who made you feel proud of the country. And you…”
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