“good, but probably like kind of hackish politics right…” — Pod Save America at 28:25
“good, but probably like kind of hackish politics right now, we would make a giant issue of the fact that there is a pay increase for members of Congress in this bill, the first one in 15 years. And that is deeply unpopular. And I am willing to bet that this was a, I'm just guessing here, so don't hold me to this, but…”
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