“I think ultimately the policy formulation that they landed…” — Pod Save America at 48:21
“I think ultimately the policy formulation that they landed on is a really good one. We know that it's effective because actually the pressure at the border, the number of folks entering unlawfully has gone down. But they didn't start talking about it until too late. So I think an aggressive approach that said from…”
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