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“I don't know. That's kind of where I'm struggling with it.…” — The Vergecast at 27:32

“I don't know. That's kind of where I'm struggling with it. Like my parents are big iPad users. They do not have a MacBook. I've been issued a MacBook at every job I've had for the last two decades. You know, it's like just been, I haven't even like invited one into my house and I've just had it all the time. And…”

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