“And if you've been listening to us recently, you know that…” — The Vergecast at 29:46
“And if you've been listening to us recently, you know that we talk a lot about the creator economy, like the YouTube podcast economy, and how all of that requires a pretty uncomfortable smashing of editorial and ads. All the creators have to do the brand deals. They have to read the ads. David and I send each other…”
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