“And what I found in reporting in this book is that while…” — Cato Audio at 35:40
“And what I found in reporting in this book is that while they're making these foreign policy for the middle class arguments, they end up adopting a lot more of Trump-era policies than I think even they expected to. So when I was talking to them during the transition, they were really talking, I mean, Terry Shirley…”
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