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“the least possible they can be on violence. And some of us…” — Cato Audio at 53:54

“the least possible they can be on violence. And some of us think that means eliminating it, perhaps entirely, except for in self-defense. Some think we need a little more. I will stop ranting now and let Gene begin a conversation. Yeah, you pick up the story in the post-war era. And you said the original.”

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