“No, it's not as good, I think, as a lot of people thought…” — Cato Audio at 1:01:00
“No, it's not as good, I think, as a lot of people thought it would be. But coming from where the North Koreans already are, it's a step up. So there's a lot of technological advancement that North Korea gets to do. And this seems to fly in the face of at least the US strategy of isolating and containing North Korea.…”
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