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“It's very difficult to see the way forward. I think the…” — Cato Audio at 1:04:48

“It's very difficult to see the way forward. I think the best option is you build a time machine and you go back to Hanoi in 2019. Okay, let's just say that we do not have that technology. Dang. I think what will likely happen is a strengthening of U.S. blocks against Russia and North Korea. And you will have a sort…”

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