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“However, I think China is still playing its moves somewhat…” — Cato Audio at 1:07:03

“However, I think China is still playing its moves somewhat cautiously. They are doing trade with the Russians, but they're not providing weapons to the Russians directly for the Ukraine fight. And I think China is sensitive to the risks of that, because especially they want to keep some modicum of good relations with…”

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