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“rules there are, is like, if they say, sure, he'll take…” — Pod Save America at 29:21

“rules there are, is like, if they say, sure, he'll take another test then, it's like, they're thinking, then we lose more new cycles focusing, waiting for the test. They won't give an inch. They don't want to give an inch. That's exactly right. There's a science to natural gas safety. Signs of a gas leak? Testing…”

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