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“and to have your view. And I will say that if I did have…” — Pod Save America at 1:27:32

“and to have your view. And I will say that if I did have an opportunity to talk to the president, the biggest thing I would say is, you know, Mr. President, politics is ultimately about persuasion. Let's be in the business of persuasion. Let's not just be employing the tactics of criticizing the media and calling…”

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