“We can say that out loud, and that actually can be…” — Pod Save America at 16:44
“We can say that out loud, and that actually can be something that persuades voters that we're serious about the issue and allows us to open the door to do the other things we want to do, like solve the dreamer issue and expand pathways to citizenship, et cetera. So I guess the bottom line is we need to be able to…”
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