“we like it or not, the perception of it is that it is…” — Pod Save America at 6:27
“we like it or not, the perception of it is that it is unstable. There is disorder. And thus, what President Biden, I think, politically is trying to do here is, to your point, send the message. He's going to do something to get control of the situation. It is not to be on and end all of its policy. It is a piece of…”
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