“where the debate we're having is very, very different than…” — Sidebar at 7:34
“where the debate we're having is very, very different than what we were having in 1986 or even 1996. Back then, the focus primarily and the debate in Congress and in Washington centered primarily, look, what can we do to reduce crime? What can we do to reduce drug use? We want to find deterrence. And so that led to…”
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