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“are so ridiculous now. Yeah, I don't know that they matter…” — Pod Save America at 42:46

“are so ridiculous now. Yeah, I don't know that they matter much. They don't. I mean, it's like, this is a sad, depressing thing to say, but like so much else in politics right now, they only serve for the bread and circus-like entertainment for our highly engaged political junkies who made up their minds months ago.…”

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