“So I wanted to get into that. It seems like there's like…” — Pod Save America at 1:07:02
“So I wanted to get into that. It seems like there's like three components to a message. There's what we say, there's how we say it, and then there's how we make sure people hear it. Put the last one aside for a second. And the first two, what we say and how we say it. I've been banging this drum since 2016. I know…”
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