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“than debates about economics and economic issues. Like…” — Pod Save America at 1:07:45

“than debates about economics and economic issues. Like maybe back in, you know, last time we had an election based on a debate about economic issues was 2012, maybe, when we were able to do that. Unless you argue that that's actually part of what Trump was doing. And he was trying to reverse that and tell a story…”

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