“people have an emotional, intense response to that they…” — Pod Save America at 1:10:51
“people have an emotional, intense response to that they actually care about. And then they get involved in those fights as well. Because if we can message all we want, but if people aren't talking about it in their, you know, in Berenstaden World of Warcraft, then we're probably not actually having the kind of fight…”
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