“the person's leadership, you know, maybe the person's…” — Pod Save America at 57:22
“the person's leadership, you know, maybe the person's resume, maybe the person's track record. But, you know, if we're talking about that person being a woman, I think it is a different calculation, and you have to acknowledge that. Yeah, I also do think, like, I think, yes. I think we're talking about two scenarios.…”
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