“If there's any weakness, that leads to more members of…” — Pod Save America at 1:01:42
“If there's any weakness, that leads to more members of Congress saying like, oh, I see where this train is going. Let's get in front of it, call it a parade. It leads to the donors cutting off funds. It leads to another terrible news cycle. So they're just stuck. And I think the reality is very few people have any…”
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