“I can make this example very concrete. We launched the…” — The Vergecast at 59:30
“I can make this example very concrete. We launched the entire Verge off the back of the Engadget podcast. We had Engadget. We were unhappy there. We had the podcast. We left. We didn't take the feed. I mean, this is ancient history now, but this is stuff that you see playing out over and over again now. But in 2010…”
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