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“It's both. I guess I've revealed a lot about how I think…” — The Vergecast at 1:15:00

“It's both. I guess I've revealed a lot about how I think about hockey players. You have. I grew up in like, you know, Wisconsin's like Minnesota adjacent. There's a lot of hockey floating around. It's true. I lost to a number of hockey players in my youth is what I'm trying to say. Okay. So Travis, Travis is capped…”

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